04: "We’re holding back the tide of darkness but that does not mean we’re creating light.” (ft. Norma Wong Roshi)

Published: Sept. 11, 2018, 8 a.m.

Join guest Norma Wong for a discussion of making love through aloha and activism. Norma Wong is a Zen Master, teacher of Mu-i Tai Ji Zen, and a former Hawai'i state legislator who calls all of us to a deeper practice of activism through aloha.