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Episode 22: Wu Ming and Benjamen Walker on conspiracy theories
b'This week we talked about conspiracy theories with Wu Ming, the collective, whose books inspired one the main conspiracy theorists on the internet, and Benjamen Walker, whose podcast often focuses on conspiracy theories. We cover: The art of blurring fact and fiction, and non-fiction, discrediting gatekeepers, can we ever really debunk, the role of satire, the hunger for complexity, pizzagate, the \\u201cdeep state,\\u201d QAnon, and of course, president Trump.'