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This is the first interview in a two-part series. What are the stages of grief? What should survivors know about grief? What\'s a five-minute test you can give your church to see how comfortable they are in walking through the difficult emotions associated with trauma? Jonathan is conversant in this subject, and you will benefit from his wisdom.  Here\'s a link he mentions: https://www.alifeoverseas.com/an-empty-ocean-and-the-10-things-we-must-remember-about-grief/