Mike Green | The Greatest Story Ever Sold: The Rise of Passive Investing & the Fall of the Free Market

Published: Dec. 16, 2019, 9 a.m.

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In this week\\u2019s episode of Hidden Forces, Demetri Kofinas speaks with investor Mike Green. Mike Green most recently served as the discretionary portfolio manager for Thiel Macro, LLC, an investment firm that manages the personal capital of Peter Thiel. He\'s been a student of markets, and market structure in particular, for nearly 30 years. His research into and analysis of the shift from actively managed portfolios and investment funds to systematic passive investment strategies has been presented to the Federal Reserve, the BIS, the IMF and numerous other industry groups and associations. His intention has been to alert regulators to the clear and present danger that he feels these strategies pose to the stability and viability of global capital markets.

It is important to note that while the post-2008 period has seen a flourishing of more complex, behavioral approaches to economics that reject notions of equilibrium and mean-reversion, there has simultaneously been a doubling down among investors on passive strategies that see markets as stochastically predictable, efficient, and always mean-reverting. These approaches do not incorporate new information like price data or value metrics in their transaction functions. Most importantly, they do not incorporate the impact of their own buying or selling behavior. Indeed, according to Mike Green, \\u201cthe incentive of these target funds, from a regulatory and lobbying standpoint, is to demonstrate that they don\\u2019t exist.\\u201d\\xa0

The forces of automation driven by our diminishingly available brain space, along with the need for generating higher yield seem to have overwhelmed investors\\u2019 understandings about how the world actually works. This imperative to deliver yield above what the market can bear on a reasonably, risk-reward basis, combined with the cognitive overload that investors and clients are experiencing in their daily lives may be leading us down a path of self-destruction.

This unease is captured in what Mike Green calls "the uncanny valley," a term most closely associated with the robotics design space. It is used to describe the aesthetic confusion one feels while encountering an android whose human resemblance is noticeably disturbing. Similarly, in markets today, many of us know that something is wrong but can\'t quite put our finger on what it is. Indeed, some of the best active managers in the business have given up trying to figure it out.

The purpose of today\\u2019s episode is to help shed light on the source of this unease and to set the foundation for the second part of our conversation, which has been made available to Patreon Audiophile, Autodidact, and Super Nerd subscribers. In the overtime, Demetri drills into the specifics of Mike\\u2019s thesis regarding the implications of passive investment strategies that have ballooned in popularity over the last 25 years making up forty-seven and twenty-seven percent respectively of assets under management in equities and bond funds at the end of 2018 \\u2013 up from less than five percent in 1995. Mike also shares information about how he and his partners are managing their clients\\u2019 portfolios in order to mitigate the risks posed by these structural changes, as well as how they\\u2019ve sought to monetize the opportunities that these same flows represent.\\xa0\\xa0

You can access the second part of today\\u2019s conversation, along with the transcript and rundown through the Hidden Forces Patreon Page. All subscribers are granted access to our overtime feed, which can be easily added to your favorite podcast application.

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