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Have we been measuring the wrong things when we develop buildings and cities? Lone Feifer is Head of sustainable buildings at VELUX Group, a Danish company essentially producing windows that allow for more daylight and better indoor climate. But there is also an important sustainability factor in improving energy efficiency as well as human well-being. In this conversation, Lone explains her future vision of a more sustainable building sector and what we have been doing wrong so far. // Recorded over Zoom. // Podcast host: Christian von Essen // Check out our other episodes in English.