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b'Pablo Bermejo is the author of the Leanpub book Building Software Platforms: A guide to SaaS transition with AWS. In this interview, Leanpub co-founder Len Epp talks with Pablo about his background and career, how he first became interested in programming, about hiring and remote work, some of the differences between providing products versus providing services, "build patterns" and "buy patterns", his book, and at the end, they talk a little bit about his experience as a self-published author.\\n\\nThis interview was recorded on November 17, 2021.\\n\\nThe full audio for the interview is here: https://s3.amazonaws.com/leanpub_podcasts/FM193-Pablo-Bermejo-2021-11-17.mp3. You can subscribe to the Frontmatter podcast in iTunes here https://itunes.apple.com/ca/podcast/leanpub-podcast/id517117137 or add the podcast URL directly here: https://itunes.apple.com/ca/podcast/leanpub-podcast/id517117137.\\n\\nThis interview has been edited for conciseness and clarity.'