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b'In this episode I take us back to 2012 for a re-broadcast of interviews with Sarah Sentilles and Eugenie Scott.\\xa0\\nIn the first part of today\\u2019s show, you will hear an interview that first aired in January 2012 with Sarah Sentilles. Sarah Sentilles broke up with the Creator of the Universe just as she was about to be ordained as a priest in the Episcopal Church.\\xa0 She tells all in her book,\\xa0Breaking Up With God: A Love Story.\\xa0 In this interview Dr. Sentilles shares her theological journey and demonstrates why if the church is going to have any relevancy to educated and inquiring minds, it is going to need to challenge its patriarchy and its outdated images of God.\\nEugenie Scott, was\\xa0 executive director of the\\xa0National Center for Science Education\\xa0from 1986 to 2014.\\xa0 In 2012 she was my guest to discuss the history of the evolution/creationism controversy, and promote the teaching of science.'