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In this episode, I talk with Tom Atlee. Tom is a founder of The Co-Intelligence Institute. Co-Intelligence Institute (CII) is a non-profit promoting awareness of co-intelligence and of the many existing tools and ideas that can be used to increase it. The goal of the CII is the conscious evolution of culture in harmony with nature and with the highest human potentials. Tom has recently released a pattern language deck for Wise Democracy. The deck is a collection of 96 wise democracy “patterns.” These patterns are based on dynamic factors and design principles which can make an activity, organization or community more wisely self-governing. In this conversation we talk about: #1. The Nature of democracy, the importance of participation, and wise decision making #2: We unpack one of my favorite quotes, "If you're not part of the problem you can't be part of the solution." And fortunately/unfortunately we're all part of the system and we all care, and that means we all get to improve it together. We talk about How Getting people to talk to each other in any system can be an emergent form or governance #3: we talk about various tools to have meaningful and productive dialogue and deliberation. In this time when politics feel frustrating and our differences feel almost totally irreconcilable, This conversation offers an exciting vision of how we can do democracy far better. This isn't something that just can hope for, The tools and wisdom are already available to participate more consciously and wisely, and it's up to us, all of us, each of us to make it happen. Because we are already are the ones making it happen.