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Being joyful is a thoughtful practice, although it\\u2019s not something we\\u2019re typically focused on. However, my conversation with Phoebe Farag Mikhail left me thinking about joy, and I hope it will do the same for you. Phoebe and I talk about how joy differs from pleasure and happiness, why hospitality is important, and how her friendships have changed in the last few years.

Phoebe is a wife and mother of three young children. She serves at St. Antonious & St. Mina Coptic Orthodox Church in East Rutherford, NJ with her husband Father Bishoy Lamie Mikhail. She is the author of \\u201cPutting Joy into Practice: Seven Ways to Lift Your Spirit from the Early Church,\\u201d published by Paraclete Press and released in April 2019. She edited the second revised edition of His Holiness Pope Shenouda\'s book, \\u201cThe Life of Repentance and Purity.\\u201d She also blogs at \\u201cBeing in Community,\\u201d while working as an independent consultant in international development and teaching. Phoebe has lived in New York City, Washington, DC, Cairo, and the UK.\\xa0

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