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Nathan and Steve got to sit down with David Hayward, aka, “NakedPastor” for a fabulous conversation. David is an author, artist, cartoonist, and all-around super nice guy (not just because he’s Canadian). We got to hear of his journey from being a pastor for 30 years to being the cartoonist for deconstructing Christians, we talked about his motivations for doing what he does, and much more! Following the Fire book club book: "A Church Called Tov" by Scot McKnight and Laura Barringer (https://amzn.to/3BM4HEF) NakedPastor.com (https://nakedpastor.com) The Far Side (https://www.thefarside.com) “Images of Jesus” series (https://nakedpastor.com/collections/images-of-christ-prints) “Sophia” series (https://nakedpastor.com/collections/sophia-prints) Cartoon: “Two Views of God” (https://nakedpastor.com/collections/prints/products/two-views-cartoon-poster) Cartoon: “I believe I’m right” (https://nakedpastor.com/products/i-believe-im-right-cartoon) Jesus eating with the sinners Mark 2:13-17 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark%202%3A13-17&version=NIV) Book: “The Art of Coming Out” (https://amzn.to/2WnTA4J) Cartoon: “Love Versus the Bible” (https://nakedpastor.com/collections/prints/products/love-versus-the-bible-cartoon-print) Author: Eugene Peterson (https://amzn.to/2UKZxs6) Cartoon: “Nothing in Common” (https://nakedpastor.com/collections/prints/products/nothing-in-common-cartoon-print) Book: “Questions Are the Answer” (https://amzn.to/3kZj5U4) Book: “A Cloud of Unknowing” (https://amzn.to/3iUteyZ) First “Sophia” drawing: “Fearless” (https://nakedpastor.com/collections/sophia-prints/products/sophia-fearless-print-poster) Book: “The Liberation of Sophia” (https://amzn.to/2UWJyXJ) Sophia drawing: “Cave” (https://nakedpastor.com/collections/sophia-prints/products/sophia-cave-drawing-print-poster) Sophia drawing: “Light” (https://nakedpastor.com/collections/sophia-prints/products/sophia-light-drawing-print-poster) “My burden is light…” Matthew 11:28-30 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2011%3A28-30&version=NIV) Book: “Till Doubt Do Us Part” (https://amzn.to/2WsOUe1) Join our Patreon (http://patreon.com/followingthefire) - we'd love your support and we have some fantastic patron perks! Special Guest: David Hayward.