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b"Pentagon planners know the U.S. military needs new technologies, new innovations if it hopes to stay on top. But many of the innovation initiatives don't gain scale. My next guest says, that's because of the 1960s era planning, programming, budgeting and execution process the Defense Department uses -- the PPB&E. Jerry McGinn is executive director of the Center for Government Contracting at George Mason University.\\nLearn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices"