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In this episode we recover from our Mormonism series by smoking some J's and having a conversation with Rev. Ivan Stang, co-founder and sacred scribe of the Church of the SubGenius. He enlightens us on the teachings of "Bob" Dobbs and the formation of the church, we talk about his radio show "The Hour of Slack", and discuss how Rev. Stang cultivates "Slack" in his own life.