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b'"It\\u2019s not an on/off switch. We are living with coronavirus until we get a vaccine, and that could be 18 months, if we\\u2019re lucky.\\u201d - Juliette Kayyem\\n\\nIn today\\u2019s episode, co-hosts Dr. Celine Gounder and Ron Klain discuss what we could have seen coming with this pandemic and speak with Juliette Kayyem, faculty chair of the Homeland Security Program at Harvard\\u2019s Kennedy School of Government and a security analyst at CNN, about the differences in approaches to the COVID-19 pandemic between public health and homeland security, the roles that both state and federal governments must play during this pandemic, and some of the failures that have happened thus far. They also talk about what we can expect to see in the coming months in the US. On March 21, 2020, Juliette Kayyem, published an article in The Atlantic, \\u201cThe Crisis Could Last 18 Months. Be Prepared,\\u201d https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/03/there-isnt-going-be-all-clear-signal/608512/\\n\\nWe also hear from a healthcare worker on the frontlines at a trauma center in New Jersey about the shortages of protective gear and other essential equipment that his hospital is facing.\\n\\nListener Q&A: How effective are convalescent serum and remdesivir in treating COVID-19?'