#27 - A Deep Dive into Body Neutrality (with Jessi Kneeland)

Published: Oct. 1, 2023, 3:46 a.m.

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In this episode, we explore the endlessly interesting and controversial topics of body image, body positivity and so-called \\u201cbody neutrality.\\u201d

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Body Neutral is an elusive and important concept that happens to be the title of a book just published in June 2023 by author Jessi Kneeland, who joins us in our Zoom podcast studio today.

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With Jessi\\u2019s help, we unpack the systematic, step-by-step blueprint she offers in her book for overcoming the weight of body image issues in one\\u2019s life.

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No stranger to identity cultural politics, Jessi-\\u2013who identifies as both non-binary and queer-\\u2013tackles head-on the trap of believing that the appearance of one\\u2019s body determines one\\u2019s worth in society.

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Elizabeth first interviewed Jessi while doing a YouTube series called way back in 2015. The title of that episode fittingly was \\u201cHow to Love Your Body.\\u201d You can watch it here at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ALBbEE2EaU

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It\\u2019s so exciting to congratulate Jessi in the time warp of 8 years later, to review the substance of her brand new book and discuss how her ideas have evolved since that original conversation.

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You can learn more about Jessi Kneeland here:

Jessi\'s Website: https://www.jessikneeland.com/

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SHOW NOTES

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[ 00:00 ] Intro

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[ 02:42 ] Starting in the fitness industry, Victoria\\u2019s Secret models and weekend warriors; body image commands an \\u201cinflated and inappropriate amount of power\\u201d

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[ 04:00 ] Body Neutrality versus Body Positivity

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[ 05:20 ] \\u201cAnother should\\u201d \\u2013 being required/expected to love your body

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[ 07:30 ] Dismantling the concept that your appearance dictates your worth in society

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[ 09:20 ] Elizabeth\\u2019s childhood struggle with body image

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[ 10:15 ] Confronting the FANTASY: A certain number on the scale does NOT fix everything

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[ 15:15 ] Four Categories of Body Image Avatars discussed in book

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[ 18:45 ] Body Neutrality: Is there a \\u201cmiddle way\\u201d with regard to one\\u2019s body image that is not radical?

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[ 21:35 ] The usefulness of \\u201cgroutchy acceptance\\u201d - permission to feel irritable about how you look at times

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[ 22:13 ] How \\u201cbody positivity\\u201d can turn into body \\u201ctoxicity\\u201d

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[ 22:45 ] Meaning of \\u201cDrop the Weight\\u201d \\u2013 What are we dropping?

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[ 23:15 ] The magic of neuroscience and trauma resolution

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[ 26:20 ] Original YouTube Interview with Jessi & Elizabeth from 2015 - How Jessi\\u2019s ideas have evolved since that \\u201cHow to Love Your Body\\u201d discussion

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[ 29:00 ] Identifying as both non-binary and queer/bisexual

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[ 33:55 ] Defining and moving beyond \\u201cbeauty privilege\\u201d

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[ 37:20 ] Breaking a mold, shaving her head, wearing men\\u2019s clothes, occasionally going bra-less; Going completely off of make up and then back to it at times without attachment

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[ 42:51 ] \\u201cIf you want to look queer, there are ways to look queerer.\\u201d

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[ 45:15 ] Freedom to verbally tell people how you identify, not simply by how you look

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[ 48:25 ] Body issues/dysmorphia exist for a reason\\u2013get curious about what those reasons are

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[ 50:00 ] Body Neutral offers a systematic blueprint to overcome body image issues piece by piece

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