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Published: Feb. 28, 2022, 8:44 p.m.

Robert is joined by author, Integral philosophy teacher, and 40+ year veteran psychotherapist Dr. Keith Witt to explore a topic that is sometimes considered a \u201cfour letter word\u201d in today\u2019s culture\u2014narcissism. Though typically thought of in narrowly defined terms, Dr. Keith Witt helps broaden our perspective through various lenses: historical, political, psychological, and Integral/developmental. Discover how there is both a narcissist and a wise self in all of us. Warning: this episode goes down some intellectual rabbit-holes as we Integral theory geeks tend to do.

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Some of the topics we explore include:

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- The Roman poet Ovid\u2019s original portrayal of Narcissus

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- Narcissistic traits vs. Narcissistic Personality Disorder

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- The Trump phenomenon

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- Authoritarian systems and narcissism

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- Practices for authentic self-love

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- The importance of having a sense of humour

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Show notes:

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1:49 - Introducing Dr. Keith Witt

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4:28 - Ovid\u2019s story of Narcissus

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6:42 - Freud turns psychology into a science

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10:03 - The introduction of the term \u201cnarcissism\u201d

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12:18 - Everything is relationships

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15:13 - A limited number of therapy sessions with narcissists

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18:54 - The difference between narcissistic traits and NPD

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20:15 - The introduction of shame in children and regulation

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22:14 - The Jean Piaget experiment for cognitive development

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23:58 - All cultures have hierarchies

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25:32 - Historical timeline of how humans developed self-awareness

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27:48 - Historical figures throughout time who looked at the world through an Integral lens

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29:15 - There is an epidemic of how we relate with mental illnesses

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31:39 - Integral theory and Spiral Dynamics: Tribal

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33:50 - Authoritarian systems and narcissism

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34:43 - The Trump phenomenon

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39:38 - How narcissism gets internalized at different stages of development

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45:15 - Keith\u2019s journey of learning about psychology

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47:53 - The biggest blindspot in modern business is middle-management

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49:24 - Regulation and the rock star/child celebrity example

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52:32 - Service is one of the main vehicles out of narcissism

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55:10 - Recovering from the addiction of narcissism

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57:22 - Extreme opportunities to re-author self after traumatic events

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1:01:25 - We are social beings

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1:00:54 - Covert narcissism

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1:02:34 - The importance of having a sense of humour, \u201churts more, bothers us less\u201d

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1:04:47 - Using projection to help narcissists grow

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1:05:24 - Looking in the mirror at both our strengths and weaknesses

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1:06:04 - Different lines of development

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1:06:50 - Maturity around protecting good, true, and beautiful assets like language

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1:10:24 - There\u2019s a wise self in all of us

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1:11:07 - Giving feedback in a plus/delta format, focusing on strengths as well as weaknesses

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Dr Keith Witt is a licensed clinical psychologist, lecturer and author dedicated to studying, teaching, and creating transformative healing systems. He\u2019s been practicing psychotherapy in Santa Barbara, California for over 40 years, where he\u2019s conducted over 55,000 therapy sessions with individuals, couples, and groups. Find his books, trainings, and more here: https://drkeithwitt.com/