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DevOps Cafe Ep. 62 - Guests: Mary and Tom Poppendieck
John and Damon talk to Mary and Tom Poppendieck about their groundbreaking work translating Lean product development\xa0principles to software development, "The Seven Deadly Sins", containers to reduce friction, their best-selling books, and what keeps them from actually retiring.
\nShow notes at\xa0http://devopscafe.org