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On the podcast this month, Matt Wynne speaks to Angie Jones. \n\nWe first heard about Angie through her posts about BDD, Test Automation and Cucumber on her website. Her blog is a treat, filled with lots of practical advice for modern software teams. \n\nAngie now works for Twitter as an Automation Engineer and is a frequent conference speaker.\n\nHere's what they discuss on the podcast:\n\nAngie's background and her current role at Twitter.\n\nWhy developers shouldn't lead your automation efforts.\n\nHow testers can win over the team with BDD and Cucumber.\n\nThe future of testers in a world of automation.\n\nShownotes: \n\nAngie's blog: https://angiejones.tech/