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Key Links \xa0 \xa0 \xa0 -----I had the great opportunity to sit down with Per Besson.\xa0 We met in person at the Extreme Travel International Congress, where Per did a lot of great organizing for the event at the Principality of Sealand.\xa0 The following week we met for some great Georgian food and sat down to do an interview in person in London. My apologies, this episode was recorded in the hotel lobby with some background noise.\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0 I am reminding you that Counting Countries is now partnered with Patreon.\xa0 Patreon is a platform that allows patrons, that\u2019s you, to support creators, and that is me creating Counting Countries.\xa0 And thanks to my other patrons, Ted Nims, Bisa Myles, Ryan Gazder, and Adam Hickman. As thanks, they are able to listen to additional interviews like the extra interview I did with Per, only available to them.\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0 \xa0 Counting Countries is offering its first on November 7th. Please go to to see more information as well as disclosures.\xa0 And I am reminding you of a trip to in August of 2020 with G Adventures. \xa0 Per has led a fascinating life including visiting every country in the world.\xa0 According to Nomad Mania he is a top 100 traveler. After college, Per embarked on a nomadic life, living for multiple years, in Europe, China, and Brazil.\xa0 Per has an insatiable thirst for learning multiple languages and this is an integral part of this travels.\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0 \xa0 I encourage you to subscribe wherever you listen, Apple Podcast, Google Play, Stitcher, or Spotify and write a review, even better if it is 5 stars.\xa0 Why? Because that is what keeps this podcast going.\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0 But for now, here\u2019s my conversation with Per from the Big Smoke better known as London.\xa0 Please listen in and enjoy.\xa0\xa0\xa0 Thank you to my Patrons \u2026. Adam Hickman, Bisa Myles, Ted Nims & Ryan Gazder. \xa0You can purchase today on Amazon. More About Per: \xb7 \xa0 \xa0 \xa0 Where were you born: Frankfurt, Germany \xb7 \xa0 \xa0 \xa0 What passport (s) do you hold: US \xb7 \xa0 \xa0 \xa0 Favorite travel book: A Fortune-Teller Told Me \xb7 \xa0 \xa0 \xa0 Favorite travel film: Central Station \xb7 \xa0 \xa0 \xa0 Favorite travel app or website: Rome2Rio.com \xb7 \xa0 \xa0 \xa0 Must carry item when traveling (like flashlight, Kindle, deck of cards etc.): Smartphone \xb7 \xa0 \xa0 \xa0 Favorite food: Kung Pao Chicken \xb7 \xa0 \xa0 \xa0 Favorite drink: Caipirinha \xb7 \xa0 \xa0 \xa0 Favorite airline: Whichever leaves on time, but not before I arrive \xb7 \xa0 \xa0 \xa0 Favorite hotel: The one with the friendly, efficient receptionists And now you can listen to ! And Alexa! And write a review! Check out our friend: .\xa0 They organize international rallies around the world including: Sri Lanka, Cambodia, the Philippines and the Amazon.\xa0 And watch my full length when I traveled with Large Minority.\xa0\xa0\xa0 About Counting Countries Counting Countries is the only podcast to bring you the stories from the dedicated few who\u2019ve spent their lives on the singular quest of traveling to every country in the world. Less people have traveled to every country in the world than have been to outer space. Theme music for this podcast is Demeter\u2019s Dance, written, performed, and provided by . About GlobalGaz Ric Gazarian is the host of Counting Countries. He is the author of three books: , , and .\xa0 He is the producer of two travel documentaries: and .\xa0\xa0 Ric is also on his own quest to visit every country in the world. You can see where he has and keep up with his journey at How Many Countries Are There? Well\u2026 that depends on who you ask! The United Nations states that there are . The British Foreign and Commonwealth office states that there are . The Century Club states that there are . The Most Traveled Person states that there are . The Nomad Mania SISO says there are .\xa0\xa0 Me? My goal is the 193 countries that are recognized by the UN, but I am sure I will visit some other places along the way. Check out our friend and his new book:\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0 \xa0 Disclaimer: Some of these links are affiliates, so order away so I can pay my bills! Thanks.\xa0 ----- Produced by