Jennifer Burns on Milton Friedman and Ayn Rand

Published: Nov. 15, 2023, 1 p.m.

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Jennifer Burns is a professor of history at Stanford who works at\\xa0the intersection of intellectual, political, and cultural history. She\\u2019s written two biographies Tyler highly recommends: her 2009 book, Goddess of the Market: Ayn Rand and the American Right and her latest, Milton Friedman: The Last Conservative, provides a nuanced look into the influential economist and public intellectual.

Tyler and Jennifer start by discussing how her new portrait of Friedman caused her to reassess him, his lasting impact in statistics, whether he was too dogmatic, his shift from academic to public intellectual, the problem with Two Lucky People, what Friedman\\u2019s courtship of Rose Friedman was like, how Milton\\u2019s family influenced him, why Friedman opposed Hayek\\u2019s courtesy appointment at the University of Chicago, Friedman\\u2019s attitudes toward friendship, his relationship to fiction and the arts, and the prospects for his intellectual legacy. Next, they discuss Jennifer\\u2019s previous work on Ayn Rand, including whether Rand was a good screenwriter, which is the best of her novels, what to make of the sex scenes in Atlas Shrugged and The Fountainhead, how Rand and Mises got along, and why there\\u2019s so few successful businesswomen depicted in American fiction. They also delve into why fiction seems so much more important for the American left than it is for the right, what\\u2019s driving the decline of the American conservative intellectual condition, what she will do next, and more.

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Recorded August 30th, 2023.

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