Charles C. Mann on Shaping Tomorrows World and the Limits to Growth

Published: Jan. 31, 2018, 12:37 p.m.

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At the beginning of their conversation, Tyler dubs Charles C. Mann a tlamatini, or \\u2018he who knows things.\\u2019 And oh, the things he knows, effortlessly weaving together, history, anthropology, economics, and a half-dozen other disciplines into enthralling writing. And the latest book, *The Wizard and the Prophet: Two Remarkable Scientists and their Dueling Visions to Shape Tomorrow\\u2019s World*, is no exception, which Tyler calls one of the best overall frameworks for thinking about environmentalism and the limits to growth.

In the course of their chat, Tyler and Charles cover pollution, why the environmental impact of beef might be overstated, what fixed factor might ultimately constrain growth (and if there is one), Jared Diamond and Bjorn Lomberg, the underrated political genius of Cortes, his top tip for appreciating Robert Frost, and why Andrew Jackson didn\\u2019t have to be such a jerk.

Read a\\xa0full transcript\\xa0enhanced with helpful links.

Recorded January 18th, 2018

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