"What are the skills needed to survive?" - a conversation with Cat De La Paz

Published: March 20, 2020, 5 p.m.

This is a very special episode of Conversations. I'm talking with my friend Cat De La Paz, a trans Latinx woman who has been successfully working a high level corporate job in the mortgage industry for almost a decade. We talk about her experience being stealth at work, how she lives day to day and her new trans novel in progress, El Fin Del Mundo. Please be forewarned: There is some discussion and comparison of Trump's administration and what was happening in Germany as the Nazis took over, as well as mention of the Holocaust in this episode. In the spirit of full disclosure, this was the second time recording this episode (we talk about this more in the show and may release the first episode at some point). The episode you are listening to now was recorded on March 15, 2020 and we were just on the tip of the coronavirus shutting everything down and were talking about that. Because so much has changed between now and then, that part has been edited out and we have added in commentary before the episode begins.

About her book: El Fin Del Mundo: "It's about situations in my life, but actually I'm exploring a different response than I actually made in my own life."

On Todd Kincannon's 2013 tweet: "I was really interested based on my entire experience of never having been alive when an entire nation paid attention to something that transphobic. That was a turning point for me."

"In 2015 to today, there have been over 300 active legislative laws that went into the House for each state, that were anti-LGBTQ.  The majority of them did not succeed. There was resistance which means there is still fight."

"We are still fighting. We are still going out there. We are still winning. That is a moment of hope that should be shared."

On being stealth at her job: "Ultimately it was about safety. For me, the idea of being an open trans woman out in the public sector working as my true self didn't seem reasonable."

"We have to be responsible for those who can't do certain things. And they are responsible for us for the things we can't do either. Collaboration is essential."

"I've been alone. I go to work and talk about the work. I don't talk about my life. I don't talk about my realities. I'm primarily just left alone."

Links:

Why Holocaust Analogies are Dangerous

The US Holocaust Museum is Wrong to Deny That Trump's Racism Resembles Nazism

An Open Letter to the Director of the US Holocaust Memorial Museum

Take it From a Civil Liberties Professor - Trump and Hitler Have A Lot in Common 

'I'm a Holocaust Survivor- Trump's America Feels Like Germany Before Nazis Took Over'

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