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b"We're taking a deep dive into leading creatives in ministry with our guest, El Vow - Bryan Martinez. Bryan brings to the table his own unique experience and insights on cultivating people's gifts and talents within the church, the importance of being mindful of budget in creative endeavors and navigating differences among generations and cultures within a congregation. Bryan's rich and diverse journey from his Mexican immigrant roots to his current life in Florida serves as a vibrant backdrop to our substantive conversation. With an emphasis on the balance between ministry and creativity, Bryan and I tackle the challenge that most leaders face when leading creatives in a church setting. We explore tangible tips and share personal experiences, all towards becoming more effective leaders. As always, I encourage all SLU nation to share, rate, and subscribe, and to be intentional about being excellent. Let's get the conversation started."