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b'Recorded 6/13/18 - Still live in Orlando, just this time from the lovely lobby bar at the convention center hotel. We are joined by Lurene Grenier to dig a bit deeper on her keynote from TTRS. Lurene is here to give you the offensive view of attacking your network. If you want a hot take on defense from someone who is pure offense, well\\u2026 buckle up and break out your cord cutting scissors. You are already saying \\u201cWe can\\u2019t do that!\\u201d Lurene is telling you that if you decide to take this seriously enough, you can and should. Full show notes on the Talos blog'