b'Most of the Beers with Talos folks are refreshed after a summer vacation. But don\\u2019t assume that means they actually prepared for this episode. This is more of a free-flowing episode, where we discuss cyber conflict between nations \\u2014 one of the many things that keep Matt up at night. They go back and forth discussing what a \\u201ccyber war\\u201d could actually look like, and what crosses the line into conflict versus traditional \\u201chacktivism.\\u201d'