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Should we boycott fashion? To make sense of ethical dress sense, model and activist Charli Howard meets two people with very different takes on fixing the fashion industry.

Laura Krarup Frandsen has swapped a career in fashion for campaigning on the frontline of Extinction Rebellion. Since presenting a pile of waste as her graduate collection, she organised a funeral march outside London Fashion Week, calling for the industry showcase to be cancelled. Laura is asking people to stop buying new clothes for a year and believes it's too late for the industry to become sustainable.

Rachel Clowes also trained as a fashion designer and to show that sustainability can be sparkly, she's since set up The Sustainable Sequin Company. Not content with making recycled sequins, Rachel is now developing compostable sequins made from bio-plastic. As with her own business, she believes change comes gradually and has to come from within the industry.

Presenter: Charli Howard\\nProducer: Kirsty McQuire\\nEditor: Rebecca Stratford\\nTheme music: On The Sly\\nDigital Producer: Mark Ward\\nProduction Management Assistant: Flora McWilliam.\\nPhotographer: Tricia Yourkevich\\nVideo Journalist: Olivia Bolton\\nA BBC Radio Arts and Events production for BBC Sounds