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#86: Courage to change: lessons in leading large-scale transformation | John Hurley, CTO Ryanair, and Lucy Nugent, CEO Tallaght University Hospital
b'Does organizational change inevitably mean rethinking company culture? What should you do if other leaders push back against transformation efforts? And how do you encourage your teams to be fearless with new technology? In this episode of Conversations with Leaders, John Hurley, CTO of Ryanair, and Lucy Nugent, CEO of Tallaght University Hospital share their personal experiences in a lively discussion around transformational change.'