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Published: May 6, 2023, 7 a.m.

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Sarah watches the classic movie "Witness," and tells Harrison Ford that this will happen again in about 40 years with a cast member on VPR. So she Zooms up another witness to a horrible crime (Sandoval\'s interview with Howie Mandel), Jackelyn Shultz (producer and podcaster, whose credits include "Howie Mandel Does Stuff," which she hosts with her dad). They discuss the fallout from the Howie interview (and the reason why there wasn\'t a counter to Sandoval\'s ever-shifting narrative), a manipulative use of couples therapy in Tom\'s storytelling, why the Scandoval nearly cost Ariana Something About Her, Tom\'s possible use of a loan as a form of self preservation, and yes, why an 80 min monologue from Sandoval is probably the most revealing window into who he is. Howie doin? In the words of Dorinda Medley, not well, b**** - and it\'s Andy\'s Girls, Episode 408!

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