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b"\\u201cCompetition used to be based upon physical and mechanical things. It's all of a sudden being based upon software, firmware, the ability to make things happen.\\u201d \\u2013 Gary Gruver\\n\\nGary Gruver\\u2019s passion is transformation of IT in large enterprises. When I say large, that means working with companies such as HP and Macys to transform their software supply chain through automation and cultural change. In his book, Leading the Transformation: Applying Agile and DevOps Principles at Scale, he lays out what it takes from an organizational level to make long term, meaningful changes within DevOps inspired organizations.\\n\\nIn this Innovator\\u2019s Journey, I talk with Gary about his path to discovery of DevOps, how his vision compares to others in the field and what he hopes to accomplish through his work with large organizations."