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653. Steph Catudal, Author of Everything All at Once

Published: June 29, 2023, 9 a.m.

"I thought I was leaving my grief behind. I truly thought I had finished grieving. When Rivs got sick, that narrative was cracked wide open. And I learned that you never finish grieving, and that\u2019s OK. Healing is a continuous journey, and the grief kind of comes along with us and becomes a part of us. And that\u2019s a beautiful thing."

It's hard to find suitable words to do justice for Steph Catudal's words. Her New York Times best-selling memoir, Everything All at Once, is heart-wrenching, gripping, evocative, and emotional. It's the story of Steph's childhood \u2014\xa0of losing her dad to lung cancer when she was just 14, and the turmoil, rebellion, and upheaval that filled the following years. It's simultaneously the story of her adulthood \u2014 of nearly losing her husband, Tommy Rivers Puzey, to lung cancer, and of his 84-day medically induced coma. It's the story of grief, survival, strength, caregiving, motherhood, and so much more. And it's about running, but it's not about running at all.

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What you\u2019ll get on this episode:

  • What life is like now that Steph\u2019s story is out in the world (2:45)
  • On perception vs. reality (5:35)
  • Steph\u2019s original plan for a book \u2014 and what it ended up being (8:50)
  • How Steph was able to recall such vivid details from the hardest days of her life (16:00)
  • The times when Steph felt scared (23:20)
  • How Steph learned \u2014 and allowed herself \u2014 to be vulnerable as a mother (26:15)
  • Is the rebellious girl somewhere inside Steph? (34:25)
  • \u201cI see your heart and it is good.\u201d (37:45)
  • On fear and the possibility of Rivs dying (41:10)
  • What Steph\u2019s relationship with running is like (43:30)
  • What it was like when Rivs returned to the marathon, completing the 2021 New York City Marathon (50:30)
  • On marriage (55:55)

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