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b"In the classes I teach and the podcasts I record I talk frequently about how deeply Sun Tzu\\u2019s The Art of War has impacted the way I understand the opportunities that show up in my life. Once you get past the title, you can begin to understand how it is really a book about collaboration. I have MANY translations of the Art of War in my apartment but none of them have reshaped my brain as profoundly as the ones by Gary Gagliardi. His book The Amazing Secrets of Sun Tzu's The Art of War: The Mysteries of History's Most Powerful Strategy helped me to understand the work on a completely different level and was the basis for my Five Meaasures Canvas tool.\\n\\nAnd, he is the guest on this episode of the podcast!!!!\\n\\nIf you are a fan of the Art of War or are curious about how a book called The Art of War could actually be about collaboration, this podcast is for you. \\n\\nI also want to say that I am so grateful to Gary for being willing to share his time with me and tolerate my questions. He definitely took me to school during this interview. \\n\\nI hope you will enjoy listening to it as much as I enjoyed making it.\\n\\nLinks from the Interview\\nThe Amazing Secrets of Sun Tzu's The Art of War\\n\\n\\nContacting Gary Gagliardi\\nAmazon Author Page: https://bit.ly/3CHgJkh\\nLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/garyjgagliardi/\\nWeb: https://scienceofstrategy.org/main/ and http://www.garygagliardi.com\\nSubStack: https://practicalstrategy.substack.com\\nEmail: gagliardi.gary@gmail.com"