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b'In this podcast is I got to dig into the topic of Bimodal with two guys who are deeply knowledgeable about both the traditional and the Agile space. If you aren\\u2019t familiar with Bimodal yet, you definitely want to check this out because it is poised to have a massive impact on how organizations introduce and work with Agile. And if you are already up to speed on bimodal, there is a good chance some of the discussion in this podcast is going to challenge what you know on this topic.\\n\\n\\nSome links from the Podcast\\n\\nSteve Elliott Interview \\nAgileCraft http://agilecraft.com\\nAgileCraft on Twitter - https://twitter.com/theagilecraft\\n\\nDennis Stevens Interview\\nLeadingAgile http://www.leadingagile.com\\nLeadingAgile on Twitter https://twitter.com/leadingagile\\nDennis Stevens on Twitter https://twitter.com/dennisstevens\\n\\nThe blog post Dennis mentioned on Agile vs. Waterfall http://www.leadingagile.com/2013/08/agile-vs-waterfall/\\n\\n\\nShow Notes\\n\\n0:00 Introduction to the Bimodal Podcast\\n\\n2:50 Start Interview with Steve Elliott from AgileCraft\\n3:22 Background on Steve and AgileCraft\\n5:30 Defining Organizational Agility\\n6:50 The challenges of scale (with Agile)\\n8:00 The challenge of Bimodal\\n9:00 Defining Bimodal\\n9:40 AgileCraft\\u2019s take on Bimodal\\n11:15 Is Bimodal just a way of legitimizing a hybrid model\\n12:28 Admitting when we can\\u2019t actually go 100% Agile\\n13:00 The Agile Walk of Shame\\n13:51 AgileCraft\\u2019s decision to support Bimodal and \\u201cmeet them where they\\u2019re at\\u201d\\n15:00 How Bimodal brings the data from both worlds into once place\\n16:00 Transparency and Measuring Value\\n17:10 Agile\\u2019s connection to strategy\\n18:11 Figuring out what data you need to pay attention to\\n20:22 The dangers of big wave planning\\n21:30 How the Agile space is evolving and maturing\\n22:30 How to contact Steve\\n\\n23:15 - Dennis Steven\\u2019s interview begins\\n24:14 Background on Dennis and LeadingAgile\\n25:00 Dennis explains Bimodal\\n26:00 Why some things can\\u2019t move fast in an organization\\n27:00 Not everything (in an organization) is ready to move to Agile\\n27:47 Not everyone is trying to move everything to Agile\\n28:00 How most people are misinterpreting the message of Bimodal\\n29:10 Nobody thinks matrix teams are the right way to build software\\n29:52 People are still running by the pool with scissors in their mouths\\n30:15 It\\u2019s like crack for the business world\\n31:43 Conditions that must exist for fast feedback cycles and bimodal to work\\n33:50 Is transitioning to bimodal harder than just transitioning to Agile? (3 options for transformation)\\n35:51 Realizing when your organization has changed enough\\n36:45 You have to make Mode 1 be sexy and desirable\\n37:10 Creating the urgency for change\\n37:45 Do organizations have the self-awareness needed to understand what change they need?\\n38:20 Explaining it to Executives\\n40:10 Why Dennis does not have a \\u201cbimodal\\u201d conversation with executives\\n41:00 The value of having a pragmatic and safe roadmap for transformation that resonates with Executives\\n41:47 The hardest part of transforming to bimodal\\n42:40 How to contact Dennis'