We're glad to welcome Ed Buckner, president of American Atheists, to the show to help Emery de-convert Pastor Scott. It starts out innocently enough, but soon the good pastor is knee deep in the barbeque pit. Ed keeps turning up the heat, yet Scott manages to serve up a pleasing aroma to the Lord. Listen as Ed talks about the goals of atheism, and Scott gets a dose of the "you don't know what you're missing" type arguments Christians often use on Emery.