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To learn more about The Nature Conservancy\\u2019s impactful work in the West and around the world, visit www.nature.org
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3:20 - The state of renewables in the West (Peter)
8:05 - Chris\\u2019s renewable work on the ground in CO with TNC (Chris)
12:35- Challenges and opportunities associated with finding physical sites for renewable projects (Chris)
15:50 - Examples of market incentives that Chris thinks would help develop renewable sites to the benefit of as many interests as possible (Chris and Peter)\\xa0
22:20 - Discussing the Power of Place studies (Peter)
26:35 - Other major challenges to implementing more renewable energy solutions (Peter)
33:05 - Discussing the Connected West study, to be released soon (Peter)
36:20 - Building relationships with businesses and large entities (Peter)
39:05 - Discussing Colorado SB24-212 (Chris)
47:35 - Developing renewable energy sites on \\u201cbrownfields\\u201d (Peter)
51:05 - Where to learn more about renewable energy (Peter and Chris)
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3:30 - Setting the scene for conservation work in Arizona
8:45 - Forest health work in Arizona
15:00 - Aligning profit motives with forest health goals
22:00 - Whether or not there are down-sides to forest thinning
25:15 - Discussing the Verde River
31:15 - Discussing the Big Chino Aquifer\\xa0
35:00 - Collaborating with the Trust for Public Land to build a new park in Arizona
39:45 - TNC\\u2019s work with cities in Arizona
46:00 - Dan\\u2019s passion for running, and his attraction to doing hard things
50:15 - How Dan fits running into his schedule
52:00 - How Dan became interested in conservation
57:30 - Dan\\u2019s lessons from traveling
1:00:00 - Dan\\u2019s book recommendations
1:04:30 - Dan\\u2019s parting words of wisdom
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4:00 - Where Kami is from
5:00 - Why Kami went to Colorado State, and how her family felt about that decision
9:00 - How her early experience in Colorado led her to WWOOF (and apparently a couple of cults)
15:30 - Kami\\u2019s return to CSU, and her entry into the world of outdoor recreation
19:30 - Kami\\u2019s travel adventures post-graduation
22:00 - Kami\\u2019s time with Protect Our Winters
24:15 - Kami\\u2019s transition to professional guiding
27:45 - Where Kami\\u2019s desire for connection and impact led her career next
31:45 - What Kami\\u2019s friends from college were doing while she was raft guiding, and whether or not she has ever questioned her career path
33:30 - Exploring the difference between contentment and happiness, and some more details about the outdoor education and rafting nonprofit that Kami worked for
37:15 - Kami\\u2019s transition to the Freeflow Foundation
44:00 - Discussing the Freeflow Foundation
45:45 - Balancing safety with growth driven by risk
50:00 - The trip that Ed and Kami did together on the Green River
54:45 - What makes for a good outdoor guide, and what makes for a bad one
59:00 - Who Kami admires\\xa0
1:03:00 - Kami\\u2019s next steps
1:05:45 - What worries Kami
1:09:00 - Kami\\u2019s book recommendations
1:10:30 - Kami\\u2019s advice for those who want to try a new lifestyle or career
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3:30 - Introductions
8:30 - The win-win partnership between the Jicarilla Apache Nation, the New Mexico Interstate Stream Commission, and TNC
14:00- Challenges and opportunities related to putting together the partnership deal
19:00 - Benefits to all parties as a result of the deal
21:30 - Positive ripple effects resulting from the partnership
24:15 - TNC\\u2019s strategies for managing its preserves, including the Medano Zapata Ranch
29:15- The process of gathering Indigenous and local perspectives
32:00 - Strategies, tactics, and frameworks for building cross-cultural relationships
36:30 - Balancing the time it takes to build solid relationships with the reality that \\u201ctime is of the essence\\u201d
40:30 - Upcoming exciting projects
44:30 - Resources for further learning
50:30 - Why they each chose to apply their talents, skills, and careers to the cause of conservation
55:30 - Heroes and mentors
1:05:00 - Favorite books
1:11:00 - Parting words of wisdom
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3:40 - Why Kris keeps coming back to books
7:30 - Who is Arnie N\\xe6ss
13:45 - Discussing leadership, giving credit, and other behaviors key to Kris\\u2019s success
18:40 - Happiness vs contentment
21:30 - Discussing Valle Chacabuco
25:45 - Establishing local buy-in as a conservation entity not local to Chile
30:30 - How the Tompkins managed livestock on the Valle Chacabuco
32:15 - The speed at which settlers spread to Chile
34:15 - Whether Kris is an optimist or pessimist\\xa0
36:00 - Who in the new generation gives Kris hope, and what Kris thinks about \\u201chope\\u201d
40:45 - Kris\\u2019s view on taking action
44:30 - How Kris prioritizes her efforts
49:45 - What Kris has learned in South America that is applicable to the North American West
52:15 - Business\\u2019s impact on Kris and Doug\\u2019s conservation work ethic
53:45 - Kris\\u2019s favorite failure and lessons learned
59:45 - Kris\\u2019s life of extremes and passion for service
1:05:45 - Kris\\u2019s book recommendations
1:15:45 - The land trust movement in the US, and the American grasslands
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3:30 - Discussing Aspen trees and how they captured Kevin\\u2019s attention
9:30 - Threats to Aspen populations
13:30 - Looking at the Yellowstone Fire of 1988
24:00 - How significantly forestry and attitudes toward fire have changed after the Yellowstone Fire of 1988\\xa0
28:30 - What brought Kevin to the Jackson Hole Conservation Alliance\\xa0
31:00 - Whether or not COVID has impacted the urgency of JHCA\\u2019s work
35:15 - What specific problems Kevin works on at JHCA\\xa0
39:15 - How Kevin and JHCA have collaborated with The Nature Conservancy
43:00 - Kevin\\u2019s switch from \\u201cindirect\\u201d conservation to \\u201cdirect\\u201d
45:00 - When the outdoors became a part of Kevin\\u2019s life
47:15 - Kevin\\u2019s early career in experiential education, and how it benefits his career now
52:30 - Kevin\\u2019s words for a young person looking for career advice
55:00 - Kevin\\u2019s book recommendations
58:15 - Kevin\\u2019s parting words of wisdom, and how folks can support JHCA
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This episode is brought to you in partnership with the Colorado chapter of The Nature Conservancy and TNC chapters throughout the Western United States. Guided by science and grounded by decades of collaborative partnerships, The Nature Conservancy has a long-standing legacy of achieving lasting results to create a world where nature and people thrive.
On the last Tuesday of every month throughout 2024, Mountain & Prairie will be delving into conversations with a wide range of The Nature Conservancy\\u2019s leaders, partners, collaborators, and stakeholders, highlighting the myriad of conservation challenges, opportunities, and solutions here in the American West and beyond.
To learn more about The Nature Conservancy\\u2019s impactful work in the West and around the world, visit www.nature.org
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TOPICS DISCUSSED:
3:30 - Ivy\\u2019s birth in a dry log cabin in the Wrangell Mountains
7:15 - Ivy\\u2019s childhood
10:15 - When Ivy left Alaska, and what brought her back
12:00 - How serving others became a core part of Ivy
17:00 - When Ivy became an elected official
24:00 - Discussing the political landscape of Alaska
28:15 - How Ivy became involved with TNC
34:45 - Discussing TNC\\u2019s work in Alaska
41:00 - How Ivy balances working urgently with the often slower pace of building relationships\\xa0
46:30 - The importance of Bristol Bay
52:00 - Potential future threats to Bristol Bay
57:00 - The biggest surprise for Ivy in her work with TNC
59:30 - Discussing \\u201cpractical optimism\\u201d
1:01:30 - Ivy\\u2019s book recommendations
1:03:45 - Ivy\\u2019s parting words of wisdom
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Douglas Brinkley is a world-renowned historian, author, and professor who may be best known to Mountain & Prairie listeners as the author of "The Wilderness Warrior: Theodore Roosevelt and the Crusade for America" and "Rightful Heritage: Franklin D. Roosevelt and the Land of America," which detailed the first two waves of the United States\\u2019 conservation movement. His most recent book is "Silent Spring Revolution: John F. Kennedy, Rachel Carson, Lyndon Johnson, Richard Nixon, and the Great Environmental Awakening," which delves into the third wave of conservation and the rise of the modern environmental movement. I was lucky enough to read an advanced copy of Silent Spring Revolution, and I highly recommend it.
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Doug was raised in Ohio and from an early age, his parents instilled in him and deep love and respect for wild places, national parks, and the rich history of conservation in the United States. After earning his M.A. and Ph.D. from Georgetown University, Doug began his career as a professor and historian, and he went on to teach at numerous prestigious institutions, including the US Naval Academy, Princeton, Hofstra, Tulane, and, most recently, Rice University. The prolific nature of Doug\\u2019s writing life is hard to comprehend\\u2013 he\\u2019s written extensively about everyone from TR to FDR, JFK to Rosa Parks, and about places ranging from the Alaskan Wilderness to the moon. He\\u2019s the literary executor of Hunter S. Thompson\\u2019s estate and has edited the diaries of Jack Kerouac for two separate books. He\\u2019s also served on the boards of numerous conservation organizations and has won awards for his contributions to the conservation movement. And those accomplishments just scratch the surface of his career\\u2026
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Doug has been a long-time literary hero of mine, and I credit "The Wilderness Warrior" with fueling my obsession with TR and inspiring me to move out of the real estate business and into land and water conservation work. So when I had the opportunity to join Doug at his home in Austin for a conversation about "Silent Spring Revolution," I didn\\u2019t hesitate to jump on a plane to Texas. We had a wonderful, wide-ranging conversation about the book, exploring everything from the life and work of Rachel Carson to the TR-like qualities of Supreme Court Justice William O. Douglas to the environmental legacies of JFK, LBJ, and Nixon. We also talk about Doug\\u2019s longstanding personal connection to conservation and how a deep love of teaching is at the core of all of his work. Doug also talks about the roles that art and music play in his life, what gives him hope for the future, and much more. The episode notes are jam-packed with everything we discussed, so be sure to visit the episode webpage for copious resources and links.
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Again, I highly recommend "Silent Spring Revolution," but really, I highly recommend all of Doug\\u2019s work. I greatly appreciate Doug welcoming me into his home and taking the time to chat, I hope you enjoy both this conversation and "Silent Spring Revolution" as much as I did.
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Longtime Mountain & Prairie listeners will remember Adam Gall\\u2013 he\\u2019s a Colorado-based hunting guide who, along with his wife Ana, owns Timber to Table Guide Service. Adam is a highly regarded expert in the pursuit of elk and mule deer, and he offers a variety of outfitting services ranging from public land hunts for experienced hunters to private land hunts for beginners. In my first episode with Adam, we discussed his career path to guiding, which included stints as a wolf biologist and science teacher, as well as his advocacy for public lands and wildlife conservation.
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In early January, I had the pleasure of joining Adam for my first-ever elk hunt, and this episode is a discussion about that extremely powerful experience. I had wanted to hunt elk ever since moving to the Rocky Mountains back in 2005, but I never took the necessary steps to learn how to do it. While I do have limited experience with bird hunting, I had zero experience hunting with a rifle. The idea of starting big game hunting from scratch was intimidating and overwhelming\\u2013 plus, I have way-too-many other hobbies that fill my time\\u2013 so elk hunting has been on the back burner for more than 16 years. But after getting to know Adam, learning about his skills as a teacher, and admiring his calm demeanor and reverence for wildlife, I decided that he was just the person to introduce me to the sport of elk hunting.
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To be completely transparent, I was very nervous about all aspects of the hunt\\u2013 my shooting proficiency, my ability to kill the elk quickly, quartering the animal, and processing the meat. I have the utmost respect for the skills required to be a responsible and effective big game hunter, so I was intent on approaching the entire endeavor with a high level of seriousness and focus. From the moment I arrived in Hotchkiss until we had processed the last pound of meat, Adam and Ana were exceptional teachers\\u2013we had a successful hunt and I left Hotchkiss with a newfound, life-changing appreciation for everything that is required to procure meat for my family.
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The purpose of this episode is to provide instruction and insight for people like me\\u2013 individuals who are interested in big game hunting and procuring meat but have no idea where or how to start. Even if you\\u2019ve never shot a gun, there will be useful information in this episode. Adam and I discuss all aspects of the hunt\\u2013from shooting practice at the gun range on the first day all the way to processing the meat into burger, steaks, and roasts four days later. I discuss the overwhelming emotions I felt after killing such a majestic animal, and the eye-opening experience of learning about specific cuts of meat with Ana. We discuss how Adam\\u2019s experience as a teacher makes him such an effective guide, and the importance of approaching hunting with respect, reverence, and curiosity. We talk about game management, food systems, private lands\\u2019 role in wildlife health, and much more.
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I hope you enjoy this conversation as much as I did. Hopefully, it will give you the encouragement to pursue hunting if it is of interest to you. Hunting is obviously not for everyone, but as a person who eats and enjoys meat, I am very grateful to have had the opportunity to participate in all the tasks that are required to put clean, healthy meat on my family\\u2019s table.
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Thanks again to Adam and Ana for the once-in-a-lifetime experience, and thanks to you for listening. Enjoy!
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