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Howdy, Zengineers!\n\nThis week, we're joined by our good buddy, Dave McCarty, a professional structural engineer and an amateur climber and spelunker. Yes, that's the correct word for one that adventures in caves.\n\nTogether we explore the life of a licensed engineer, and how that impacts Dave's professional and personal activities. We discuss building codes, engineering accidents, and how being an engineer factors into hobbies.\n\nFinally we conclude with one of Brian's favorite stories to retell and embelish, Dave's adventure to the bottom of Ellison's Cave, the deepest, unobstructed underground pit in the continental United States.\n\nWe hope you enjoy the convo. Support the show: http://support.zengineeringpodcast.com and visit our website for more episodes: https://zengineeringpodcast.com\n\nCheers,\n\nAdam & Brian\n\nShow Notes\n\nEllison's Cave (wikipedia):\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ellison%27s_Cave\n\nWhat is the PE Exam:\n\nhttps://ncees.org/engineering/pe/\n\nHow to use climbing ascenders (YouTube):\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LK20hvHQyA\n\nHow to choose climbing rope:\n\nhttps://www.ems.com/f/ea-how-to-choose-climbing-ropes.html\n\n--- \n\nSupport this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/zengineering-podcast/support