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Some people find VR to be a solitary experience \u2013 too lonely to ever really be a place that humans can feel comfortable in. Well, tell that to Alan, when he met today\u2019s guest \u2013 Kalle Saarikannas from Glue \u2013 in Glue\u2019s virtual reality chatroom. Despite being continents apart, it felt like they were face-to-face. Kalle sits down again with Alan \u2013 this time, without the avatars \u2013 to explain why he wants to make Glue a household name.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nAlan: Today\u2019s guest is Kalle\nSaarikannas, business development manager for Glue, a new\ncollaboration platform \u2014 and I\u2019ll let him talk more about it \u2014 but\nKalle is a 26-year-old combination of curiosity for emerging\ntechnology and commercial sense, making innovations a reality. Glue\nis a multi-user, multi-device, virtual reality hosting platform that\nis redefining the future of remote collaboration. Prior to Glue, the\npioneer of XR remote collaboration, Kalle was working closely with\nintelligent packaging, RFID sensor tech, mobile augmented reality,\nand RFID solutions for B2B and Consumer Engagement Solutions. He\u2019s\nbuilt a strong, built-in entrepreneurial mindset, and established his\nfirst business at age 15. He has a master\u2019s degree in business\nmanagement from Hanken School of Economics, and an expression of his\ninterest towards XR technology. He wrote a master\u2019s thesis about XR\ntech, \u201cImmersive Virtual Reality and Training, Using VR in the\nFacilitation of Learning.\u201d His free time is spent volunteer\nfirefighting in Helsinki, Finland. To learn more about Kalle and\nGlue, you can visit www.glue.work. Kalle, welcome to the show; so\nexcited to have you.\n\n\n\nKalle: Yeah. Thank you, Alan,\nfor having me on \u2014 and Glue \u2014 in the show.\n\n\n\nAlan: It\u2019s really wonderful. I\nhad the opportunity to try your platform back in New York during\u2026\nthere was a conference, I can\u2019t remember what the conference was, but\nwe we\u2019re speaking at it, and I got an amazing chance to meet with\nyour colleague, Jani. And he got to show me the Glue platform \u2014\nwhich, for the people listening \u2014 imagine putting on a VR headset,\nand it doesn\u2019t have to be the most fancy headset. They\u2019ll work with\nall of them. You put it on, and now you\u2019re standing in a room. Like,\nyou and I had a conversation \u2014 you were in Finland, I was in New\nYork \u2014 and we had a conversation as if we were standing in the same\nroom together.\n\n\n\nKalle: Yeah, I remember that. It\nwas quite fascinating to me, too. For the first time in virtual\nreality, we were having an eye contact with each other, although we\nwere some 4,000 miles apart, in different continents.\n\n\n\nAlan: It\u2019s really cool. So,\nmaybe describe the Glue platform, and what your vision is for this.\n\n\n\nKalle: As you mentioned in the\nintro, Glue is a software; a system for live mobile device virtual\nreality collaboration. We\u2019re not just a virtual reality platform, but\nwe also support desktop users, mobile phones, iPads, and we provide a\nwhole service for having meetings in virtual environments. Basically,\nour business model is that we are building a platform which operates\nin a software as a service model, by offering the client access to\npersistent virtual spaces that can be customized to the needs of the\nclient. Let\u2019s say a enterprise wants to \u2014 that has a lot of remote\nmeetings using traditional remote softwares, such as Skype for\nBusiness or Google Hangouts, which are based on two-dimensional\nscreens. You\u2019re having video calls, you can see the other from the\ncamera \u2014 instead of that, we offer three-dimensional virtual spaces,\nthat you can really feel the presence of other people, although you\nare sitting on a different continent, miles apart.