The women start off with a failed countdown, a discussion about how hard it is to talk (particularly for Kat), and Garden Chat(TM). Then they talk about The Thaw, an episode they both hated on first watch, and continue to not massively enjoy. I (Kat) am aware that my audio continues to be unacceptably bad, I am working on it. Also, this episode is late because I (Kat) forgot what day it was! We hope you're all holding up as well as possible and that your dreams are not haunted by the personification of your own fears. Star Trek!