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Oh man.\xa0 400 episodes in.\xa0 And today, is special.\xa0 They say, never meet your idols.\xa0 Well, for the second time on this show, we prove that theory wrong.\xa0 Once again, the founder of Dogfish Head brewery, Sam Calagione, joins us for a fantastic interview along with Co-founder and head of Patagonia Provisions, Birgit Cameron.\xa0 These two heads of two amazing companies join us to not only celebrate episode 400, but to celebrate Earth month, and the release of their new environmentally conscious collaboration beer, Kernza Pils.\xa0 We had an amazing discussion about making sustainable products, running huge, unique companies, and balancing family life.\xa0 Go have a Kernza Pils and enjoy this special episode of the podcast.\n\xa0\nThis episode is long, but it is a celebration of 8 years of hard work, luck, and good conversations.\xa0 We celebrate that in this episode with some flashbacks to our favorite, and craziest, guests.\xa0 Have a listen!