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\nWhen crisis engulfs the nation, how should the federal government \u2014 especially the president \u2014 respond? Of course, when crisis strikes, the best response is for everyone \u2014 government and citizens alike \u2014 to have prepared in advance. But when \u201cunknown knowns\u201d suddenly appear and shake our sense of normalcy, we look to the president and his administration to respond. 
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\nOur guest, Tevi Troy, knows this well. He has served at the highest levels of government in the White House and the US Department of Health and Human Services, and has studied the White House from a historian\u2019s perspective \u2014 most recently in \u201cFight House,\u201d his account of White House rivalries. Perhaps most relevantly, though, is \u201cShall We Wake the President?\u201d (2016), his account of presidential crisis management through American history. Seeing as he predicted the coronavirus pandemic in that 2016 book, he seemed to be the right oracle to discuss disaster management within and across the various arms of government.