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\nA great deal of our suffering comes from our certainty that life is meant to go our way... and this certainty easily throws us into on the one hand imagining we're meant to have the powers only a deity could have and, on the other hand, feeling small and cynical and disconnected from life. But what if we could see that we're participants in something much more like a dance in which we barely know the steps, and came to be less certain about exactly how this would turn out or, even, quite what it is that we are dancing with. This episode of Turning Towards Life is a conversation about looking beyond our certainty and catching a glimpse, perhaps, of something quite astonishing beneath, with Lizzie Winn and Justin Wise of Thirdspace.
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\nThis is Turning Towards Life, a weekly live 30 minute conversation hosted by Thirdspace in which Justin Wise and Lizzie Winn dive deep into big questions of human living. Find us on FaceBook to watch live and join in the lively conversation on this episode. We\u2019re also on YouTube, and as a podcast on Apple, Google and Spotify. You can find videos of every episode, and more about the project on the Turning Towards Life website.
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\nOur source this week is brought to us by Lizzie:
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\nANGELS
\nby MARY OLIVER
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\nYou might see an angel anytime
\nand anywhere. Of course you have
\nto open your eyes to a kind of
\nsecond level, but it\u2019s not really
\nhard. The whole business of
\nwhat\u2019s reality and what isn\u2019t has
\nnever been solved and probably
\nnever will be. So I don\u2019t care to
\nbe too definite about anything.
\nI have a lot of edges called Perhaps
\nand almost nothing you can call
\nCertainty. For myself, but not
\nfor other people. That\u2019s a place
\nyou just can\u2019t get into, not
\nentirely anyway, other people\u2019s
\nheads.
\nI\u2019ll just leave you with this.
\nI don\u2019t care how many angels can
\ndance on the head of a pin. It\u2019s
\nenough to know that for some people
\nthey exist, and that they dance.
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\nPhoto by Josh Howard on Unsplash\n