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What happens when a scientist is also a musician? For Barbara McClintock, the combination may have led the way to a Nobel Prize in genetics. Science historian Jocelyn Bosley tells us the story of Barbara\u2019s remarkable life, and how her experience playing banjo in a jazz band (yes) helped her discover \u201cjumping genes.\u201d\n\nThis is a very musical episode, with special guest jazz banjoist Mick Sullivan of The Past & The Curious! We highly recommend his history podcast.\n\nWant to hear more from our interview with Jocelyn? Listen to our exclusive interview episode on Patreon, available to those who pledge just $1 or more a month!\n\nWe have more resources to learn about Barbara McClintock on our website, as well as links to Jocelyn\u2019s podcast, Science! With Friends. Just go to sciencepodcastforkids.com!