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"Just because someone's vulnerable doesn't mean they don't have the answer...It means being very present and being willing to be present and for it to be okay to not have the answers as someone\u2019s therapist." ~Guy Macpherson

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Sarah is joined by NARM Senior Faculty Brad Kammer and guest Guy Macpherson. With a doctorate in clinical psychology and a passion for spreading awareness of trauma, how it impacts lives, and trauma-informed care, Guy hosts his own podcast entitled the Trauma Therapist Podcast.

This is just one of his many projects that are focused on connecting mental health professionals and others to information about trauma and trauma treatment. Throughout their conversation, Guy, Brad, and Sarah explore what\u2019s so transformative about trauma-informed therapy.\xa0

Guy speaks from his own experience as a therapist about the notions that he once held that have been debunked since working in the trauma field. He shares the quote, \u201cYour job as a therapist is not to take your client\u2019s pain away -- that\u2019s their journey\u201d.

By ditching the idea that a therapist has to have all of the answers, they have more capacity to show up for their client. Especially when working with clients with complex trauma, the therapist\u2019s authenticity and vulnerability can play a huge part in the process. W

hat\u2019s exciting for Guy about working with complex trauma is that, \u201cthere\u2019s a whole element of being human with someone else\u201d. It may sound simplistic, but it\u2019s so powerful. \u201cAnd not always easy,\u201d Guy adds.\xa0

Interwoven into their conversation, Sarah, Brad and Guy share stories of times they\u2019ve been humbled by their work with healing trauma. Through these humbling experiences, many ideas of what being a therapist means has been broken down: the idea that if a therapist reads enough books or goes to enough workshops they\u2019ll be prepared, the expectation that a therapist needs to know all of the answers, and the illusion that there\u2019s only one way to approach working with clients.

Rebuilt from their humbling experiences is the understanding that what at first might feel like doing less is in fact the way into a more authentic therapeutic connection. A therapist being comfortable with their own vulnerability \u201ccan be the vehicle to be present, to be open, and to be willing to learn\u201d.

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We\u2019re offering a podcast review give-away. Each week, we\u2019re choosing one podcast reviewer to receive a NARM Clinical Protocol and NARM Personality Spectrum Worksheet.

To enter, please submit a review within Apple Podcasts from your computer or mobile device and send a screenshot of your review to transformingtrauma@narmtraining.com.

That\u2019s it! Winners will be chosen weekly.\xa0

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The NARM Training Institute provides tools for transforming complex trauma through: in-person and online trainings for mental health care professionals; in-person and online workshops on complex trauma and how it interplays with areas like addiction, parenting, and cultural trauma; an online self-paced learning program, the NARM Inner Circle; and other trauma-informed learning resources.\xa0\xa0

For the full show notes including references, podcast episodes mentioned, and a quick glossary of terms, visit us at http://www.narmtraining.com/transformingtrauma

This episode was edited by The Creative Impostor Studios.

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