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This week we are very lucky to be joined by fellow podcaster and host of Full Stack Radio - Adam Wathan.\nWe begin discussion with his reasons behind starting a podcast, experience being a solo-host and the secret to great podcast recordings.\nWe then move on to how he got into programming at high school - with reflection on that if he had been using a Windows machine at college, he would most likely be a .NET developer by now.\nAs both Edd and Adam work remotely at this time, the topic of remote pair-programming and Kanban style board implementations then arises.\nFinally, we discuss his thoughts on Message-passing vs. strict-contracts, Smalltalk and Elixir exploration and how it is hard to give a definitive answer on the best way to begin learning TDD.