In design, there\u2019s a certain aesthetic we imagine we hear the word \u201csophistication\u201d \u2013 it\u2019s likely muted, neutral, maybe even sombre. And, we apply it often: to offices, to homes, to restaurants, to hotels. \n \nBut these spaces aren't often very \u2018joyful\u2019. Joyful spaces are playful and bright. And, so, we often think of joyful places as those for children. Rarely do we think the two can co-exist. One is mature, the other juvenile.\n \nMore and more, however, designers are challenging this preconception, and questioning why we so often push joy to the margins and write it off as something that lacks in refinement or elegance. \n \nIn the Pod today, two such people: Morag Myerscough and Ingrid Fetell Lee.