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We step into the art world by way of a long profile of Holly Herndon, an experimental artist and musician who works with artificial intelligence to create provocative, strange, and deeply personal works that serve as meta commentaries on the intersection between art + tech + society. Through a start-up she co-founded, Herndon is also engaged in advocacy work to build a \u201cconsent layer\u201d for artists in AI infrastructures. We critically discuss the political / cultural economy of these dynamics \u2014 these ways of seeing and means of producing artworks \u2014 both old and new.\n\n\u2022\u2022\u2022 Holly Herndon\u2019s Infinite Art https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/11/20/holly-herndons-infinite-art \n\nSubscribe to hear more analysis and commentary in our premium episodes every week! https://www.patreon.com/thismachinekills \n\nHosted by Jathan Sadowski (www.twitter.com/jathansadowski) and Edward Ongweso Jr. (www.twitter.com/bigblackjacobin). Production / Music by Jereme Brown (www.twitter.com/braunestahl)