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We dive into chapter 8 \u2013 Imaginary Cities \u2013 of The Dawn of Everything by Graeber and Wengrow. We talk about the origins of cities and contradict the commonly held belief that proto-state governance\u2014e.g. centralized, hierarchical administration\u2014developed in tandem with urban society. Instead, early cities existed for hundreds of years, organized by bottom-up self-governance, before the palaces and temples became the centers of urban power.\n\nSubscribe to hear more analysis and commentary in our premium episodes every week! patreon.com/thismachinekills \n\nGrab fresh new TMK gear: bonfire.com/store/this-machine-kills-podcast/ \n\nHosted by Jathan Sadowski (twitter.com/jathansadowski) and Edward Ongweso Jr. (twitter.com/bigblackjacobin). Production / Music by Jereme Brown (twitter.com/braunestahl)