Grandma Ness claims that she healed her own lupus. She claims not to be highly educated but she is a simple artist. If it were not for desperation, she claims that she might not have ever found a cure. She has an online guided looking at art program that is currently expanding www.healingthroughartrx.com. She has published her first book “Bernie and Babs vs The Virus” and she is working on “Bernie and Babs vs Allergies. Please note that her medical consultant for the topics that she covers in her children’s books, including repairing DNA, was a chiropractor! Her interview was cancelled in the first 12 minutes.