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Jessica Roberts, the Director of the Health Law and Policy Institute and a George Butler Research Professor at the University of Houston Law Center returns to the pod. She specializes in health law, disability law, and genetics and the law and her book on \u201cHealth ism,\u201d co-authored with fried of the pod Elizabeth Weeks Leonard, is forthcoming from Cambridge University Press. We begin by discussing health discrimination before, during, and after the ACA. Then, we discuss Jessica\u2019s take (admirably articulated in a recent Michigan Law Review book review) on the nudging at the center of healthcare\u2019s version of behavioral economics.