b'If you\\u2019re a business leader, especially at a SaaS firm or if you\\u2019re a developer at a SaaS firm, this episode with Jim Manico will provide a ton of value.\\xa0 You\'ll hear practical advice on how to approach application security that even the most technically un-savvy listeners can understand. Joe Manico is an application security powerhouse. He is the Founder of an application security training company, Manicode Security, is a major contributor to a number of OWASP projects, and he has a really great passionate approach to his work.\\xa0 What we talked about: