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Today on the flagship podcast of third-party operating systems:\xa0\nThe Verge's David Pierce chats with Laine Nooney, author of The Apple II Age: How The Computer Became Personal. \n\nLater, lead video producer Will Poor chats with David about The Verge's new documentary Lisa\u2019s Final Act: How Apple invented its future by burying its past.\ufeff\n\nTo end the show: a hotline question. \nHow to transfer playlists from Spotify to Apple Music, Amazon Music, YouTube Music, or Tidal\n\nEmail us at vergecast@theverge.com or call us at 866-VERGE11, we love hearing from you. We'll be answering a question every Wednesday!\nLearn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices