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b'This week on the interview episode of The Vergecast, editor of cheif of The Verge Nilay Patel sits down with CEO of Postlight Paul Ford. \\nPaul Ford co-founded Postlight in 2015 and is a writer, product strategist, educator, programmer, and software consultant. \\nIf you read a lot of tech writing, you probably know Paul\\u2019s name. In 2015, Ford wrote an entire issue of Bloomberg\\u2019s Business Week titled \\u201cWhat is code?\\u201d\\xa0 which colorfully explained how programming works on the web for people who don\\u2019t do it. Recently, he wrote a piece in Wired about how we should still be hopeful and excited about tech and what it can still do for us. \\nTheres a lot of negative conversation about tech lately \\u2014 regulating huge companies, what Facebook and Amazon are doing wrong \\u2014 but from someone who builds things for the web, Paul brings an optimistic look at how tech can positively and creatively impact our lives in a fun and exciting way. \\nPaul comes in to talk about his hopefulness, his piece in Wired, the state of building stuff for the web, and\\xa0 how people think about tech today.\\xa0\\nLearn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices'